The Greenwood branch of the Soo Line Railroad
Marshfield to Greenwood, Wisconsin
SooLineHistory Group Index and Map Part 1 Part 2
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Etcetera Land Grants Part 9 Part 10
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The Greenwood Line - Comments on Land Grants - Originally posted February 16, 2002
Mark: I have done what I consider to be EXHAUSTIVE reasearch on trying to determine IF the Greenwood Line really WAS a Land Grant deal, but, I could find NOTHING. (Maybe Larry Easton has tid-bits left over from his research of the line from his Excellent, "Clark County Extension" Articles in the SOO?)

Funny NP should get mentioned in the same breath as the Greenwood Line. It was because of NP's intrigues behind the scenes that the WC ended up stubbed at Greenwood for almost 90 years!!

From my Understanding of it, the Greenwood Line was built with the Original WC "Using", a.k.a., buying, yet, not really buying (I guess the G-Line was built using an early form of a Land Contract, from my research), the r-o-w lands to build to Greenwood. When the WC or the immediate successor Company to the WC Abandoned OR exited the r-o-w, the lineside r-o-w land is, *Supposedly* supposed to revert, more-or-less automatically, BACK to the Lineside Landowners.

Again, *Supposedly*, this wording is in Deeds and Abstracts, yet no one can find ANYTHING, leading many, including myself, to believe that the City of Marshfield may have already shredded these documents. Don't laugh. This bunch running Marshfield is capable of damn-near anything.

As I posted in my 6-part "Novel" about the Greenwood Line, I have never seen these documents to confirm this wording is actually there, or how it is worded, yet there are those familiar with the G-Line & this supposed agreement that claim this wording exists. This is what stalled the Folks in Loyal and Greenwood from out right purchasing the Greenwood Line and operating it themselves.

I tend to suspect what Bob Gile told me off-list: These documents probably NEVER existed, and the Greenwood Line went westward from Marshfield on a Handshake & Word-Of-Mouth agreements. That was the way things were done back then.

Keith Meacham

The Greenwood Line - Comments on Land Grants - Originally posted February 16, 2002
You have TWO locations for railroad deeds and abstracts. The County Recorder of Deeds (or the local equivalent) will have a chain of documents on numbered parcels back to the start of the County. If the property was never under County taxation, then there is a location in Madison that has records for US government transfers to the railroads. This was the process we went through when we bought the station in Colfax. We are still "discussing" with the village the fact that they never acquired title for the street in front of the depot, but just used railroad land that was convenient to pave.

Herb Sakalaucks

The Greenwood Line - Comments on Land Grants - Originally posted February 16, 2002
Herb: Thanks for the tip, but the Folks residing along the Greenwood Line r-o-w today have exhausted both resources and come up dry. In fact, one person I have spoke with tells me the County Clerk in Wisconsin Rapids gets fairly Pricky about these Documents and gives NO help at all. Same thing going through the Office in Madison. Those folks there won't help out at all and become quite difficult and snotty when you inquire about these specific land documents.

I suspect the Idea of actual wording recorded somewhere is either Destroyed, or, most likely, never existed. Everyone that resides along the G-Line r-o-w has checked their Abstracts and NOTHING is mentioned. Perhaps, the idea of the G-Line r-o-w automatically reverting to line-side landowner ownership exists beyond the Wood County-Clark County line, but not near Marshfield.

Or.......maybe the City gathered all these Documents up and ran them through a Paper Shredder, who really knows? Who can prove it now? At this stage, it appears only the Ghosts of the Gentlemen that negotiated the Deals to get the land are the only spirits that would know what really took place, so I guess that means digging out the "Wee-Gee" board on a Full Moon, or a seance, take your pick.

Speaking of that, who's Spirit do we contact, anyway? F.W. Rhinelander? Judge Jos. Reed? I. E. Richard?

I do know that there are 20 of 26 residents that DO NOT want a Hiking/Biking Trail completely disrupting the quiet and sanctity of their now-private Back Yards. Thinking on it, although I am not opposed to Trails, I DO question this one, since it will remove portions of the Residents Back Yard Property, and put a Trail through an area that I really can't call "Scenic" in any way, shape or form. I have my own Back Yard to look at, I really don't want to walk through someone else's, Thank You.

I have this feeling these residents will be forced to erect high wooden Fences, so whatever "Scenic Beauty" this trail was supposedly supposed to have will be ruined by a near-continous wooden wall. It makes you wonder, as well, just what the City Faddahs are thinking by thrusting a Trail through Residential Property like they are GOING to do unless someone or something stops them.

Life in a Small Town. Pardon me, CORRUPT Small Town.

Keith Meacham

The Greenwood Line - Comments on Land Grants - Originally posted February 16, 2002
Keith,

What is one to do, litigate! You also may want to try to check the state statutes to find out the succession of land and title upon abandonment of railroad right-of-way.

Personally, I am about to seriously consider forming the "Trails to Rails Conservancy"! Kind of tired seeing the rail line take the easy way out and do a kamakazi drive into a trail.

The trail is a reasonable use of the r-o-w though. And less noise will pervade the area, than when trains ran thru the area.

I think the area looked kind of marshy, last time I was in that area when still employed by the Soo.

If possible I will try to give you tips on legal site, however some of them require a subscription, and for some it is not cheap.

As far as living in a corrupt town...wait for attrition by nature...or move I guess.

Gerry

The Greenwood Line - Comments on Land Grants - Originally posted February 16, 2002
Jerry: When the Majority of the homes in question along this particular stretch of the G-Line were constructed, service on the G-Line was down to Twice per week. By the time the rest were built, the G-Line was down to whenever the Soo felt like running a train out there or it was already abandoned, so the reasoning that a trail will be "Quieter" is somewhat Moot.

BTW: The entirety of the G-Line was Marshy. Hence, it was a real JOY for the Section Men to try to keep it up. Esp. after the Soo decided to let it ROT atop the ground.

All I'm going to point out, for the final time, as I have allowed this to get SO far off topic we'll need a Rand McNally Map to get back on Topic again, I do not feel it is right for the City to simply decide for EVERYONE to go ahead and do what they damn well please where ever they please without giving the Landowners any input. Simply put, I wouldn't want that damn thing going through my Back Yard with the Consequent loss of my Property, either, because they are taking EXTRA in addition to the G-Line r-o-w.

Also, they plan on allowing ATV's & Snowmobiles on it in the Winter Months, so much for the "Less Noise" thread.

There are those already Litagating, but........I hate to say it, you need a Lawyer/Attorney from well outside of this area. Face it-----they're all in cohoots around here, anyway. If a Lawyer from this area tried to fight the City, he/she would have to look elsewhere to practice ever again, ---probably outside of Wisconsin--no kidding. They would be literally frozen out by the other Willing Lemmings that teeter on every wish from City Hall, the biggest being "We All Need To Work Together To Become A Cohesive Community"----------no matter what it takes or how.

Don't worry. I'd like to move.

Send the Link to me off-list, Jerry, and My Thanks. Everyone else, My Apologies for letting this get out of hand. My Fault, I take Full Responsibility. Flame me, Kick me in the Head, whatever it takes.

Keith Meacham

SooLineHistory Group Index and Map Part 1 Part 2
Part 3 Part 4 Part 5 Part 6
Etcetera Land Grants Part 9 Part 10
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